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Eric Holder said he’ll use federal law to override California’s Marijuana law if it passes. How do Cons feel?

I ask how Cons feel because it’s a precarious situation.

Proposition 19, which would make it legal for people 21 and older to carry marijuana as long as it weighs no more than 1 ounce – this is a “Liberal” law that is mostly supported by Liberals. Eric Holder would be clamping down on a Liberal law.

At the same time, it’s an act of the Federal government practicing “big government” by meddling with a State issue.

So how do Conservatives feel about it? Are they glad that a Liberal law could be extinguished? Or are they mad that the Federal government would be impeding on States’ rights?
Lttlehrse: Con, what “Black Panthers” are you talking about?

Is it that non-issue Fox made up from the 2008 Elections? Where there were a couple Black Panthers standing security outside of a polling both – one polling booth in in area? Yet tried to make it seem like A.) That they were “threatening” people, and B.), that this was some kind of national epidemic. It was a non-issue that no reasonable person cares about.
Blu: If you were pro-American, you wouldn’t be for any US State going downhill and becoming a “cesspool”. But apparently you aren’t pro-American.

Secondly, you fail to see the purpose of this law. Millions of dollars are spent each year prosecuting people for having even a few flakes of Marijuana. Decriminalization would save money, give relief to jail/prison overcrowding, free up the court system, and take away power from street drug dealers through legal means of purchasing.

But since you’re uneducated about it, you think it has no benefits and that it will simply turn California in to a “cesspool”. Oh, you mean like the Netherlands where marijuana is legal, and yet their crime rate is far lower than the US’s and they have one of the smallest prison populations in Europe per capita?
Lttlehrse: Yes, Con, I’m aware of them. There was no proof whatsoever that they “threatened” anyone. I do know Black Panthers sometimes stand “security”. Whether you consider it intimidating or not is subjective. But I saw no evidence that they “threatened” anyone. The tape only showed them standing outside a polling place. How is that illegal?

It was a non-issue that only Fox News was concerned about. That happened 2 years ago. Are you scraping the bottom of the barrel? No one else cares about that.

Tough question for all the marijuana advocates?

OK, so let’s say that in the 30′s, marijuana became illegal not because of the safety concern but due to a racist agenda based on the hatred toward the Mexicans taking up jobs during the Great Depression. Let’s say it all gets to do with politics rather than the “concern for the public” issue as fabricated by the government.

Why, then, are the VAST majority of the countries still have marijuana as an ILLEGAL substance, and only a handful of countries and state have them decriminalized ( = not completely legal)? Surely the Mexicans can’t be that much of a concern in Europe, and even in the Netherlands the marijuana is not fully legal (the status is put as “decriminalized”).

Makes you think about the impact narcs has on an individual. If America was one of the FEW countries that put pot smokers to jail, then I would reconsider my stance. But when the rest of the World is following it, ther’es got to be a legitimate reason for it.

Medjuana seeds from the Netherlands.


High quality marijuana seeds from the Netherlands.

Marijuana Should be Legalized in the United States

Despite all of the laws, regulations, and punishments the United States to keep its citizens from using marijuana, America has over 83 million marijuana users. This ranks the U.S. at 9th highest rate of marijuana use in the world. Yes, this even beats the Netherlands, where marijuana is virtually legal. What does this mean? If prohibiting marijuana was intended to keep marijuana use under control, then it means that prohibition is a complete failure. Making marijuana illegal did not do what it was intended to do, which is to prevent people from consuming it. On top of this, prohibition is responsible for the growth of the dangerous marijuana substitute, “K2″. It can also be blamed for marijuana’s status as a gateway drug, not to mention a loss of opportunity for the government to obtain billions of dollars worth of taxes. The prohibition of marijuana is based off of misconceptions the government had about marijuana almost 100 years ago. All of these have been proven wrong, and the laws should reflect that today.  Marijuana should be taxed, regulated, and legalized for those 21 or older in the United States.

You have probably heard of “K2″ or “Spice” recently. It is all over the news, or maybe you’ve seen it in person being sold at the local gas station. What “K2″ is, is a mix of herbs sprayed with a dangerous chemical ten times stronger than marijuana. It is sold as incense, and because it is not recommended to be used as a drug, it is legal. It is being sold at a relatively cheap price all over the country, and feels just like marijuana, only stronger. This drug is responsible for many hospitalizations, accidents, and even overdoses resulting in death. Teens assume that because this drug is legal, it must be safe. This is far from the truth. The chemicals in the herbal mixture have never been tested on, but the hundreds of hospitalizations say the chemicals are probably very bad for you. If marijuana was legal, nobody would have to worry about any of this. There wouldn’t be any scientists attempting to make mind altering chemicals like this if marijuana was legal. They would not have to sell a substitute that can actually kill you if the real thing was legal. Policy makers have strictly taken marijuana, which never killed anyone, out of the market. Now they are allowing a drug that has been linked to many hospitalizations into the market. If marijuana was legalized today, the young adults that were using K2 fearing legal consequences will begin to smoke marijuana instead. Remember, marijuana is a lot safer than K2.

Teenagers who try or use marijuana are much more likely to use cocaine and heroin. This is a fact.  The only reason for this, however, is because it is illegal. Because marijuana is illegal, teens must go to a drug dealer to get it. It is the drug dealer that will introduce them to other, harder drugs. If marijuana was legalized, teens will go to a gas station or a smoke shop to get marijuana. This will get a lot of teens and young adults away from the black market. One, because they won’t need to buy weed from a drug dealer, and two because there will be a substantial decline in drug dealers all together. Yes marijuana is illegal, but that doesn’t stop 83 million people from using it. This is 83 million people that can be smoking things that they don’t intend to. Marijuana from the black market can be laced with PCP, cocaine, and even heroin. If marijuana was legal, that risk will be eliminated. Now for some reasons to legalize marijuana that the government will care about.

Legalizing marijuana will make the United States billions of dollars. According to Jeffrey Miron, an economics professor from Harvard University, the government could save about 7.7 billions of dollars a year if marijuana was legalized. This is because they would not spend money on prosecuting those who break marijuana laws. When marijuana is taxed, it could bring in another 6.2 billion dollars. Almost 14 billion dollars could be made. This money could go towards anti drug organizations. The legalization could also help the economy in other ways. Marijuana shops or bars could generate income, and create jobs. An entire marijuana industry could prosper and help the economy. For real, this would be one popular industry.

Saying that marijuana should be legalized is a totally separate thing than saying that it is safe. Marijuana is not safe, but keeping it illegal is obviously not getting that message out. A drug does not have to be safe to be legalized. Take a look at alcohol and tobacco. What legalization will do however is ensure marijuana does not get any more dangerous.  It will inform people what they are ingesting. It will tell people how strong the stuff is that they are smoking. It will provide warnings to maximize the safety of the user. This regulating activity can never be accomplished if marijuana remains illegal. Illegal marijuana is like illegal fast food. There are too many people that engage in the activity for it to remain illegal effectively. Prohibition has obviously backfired on so many levels. If marijuana is not legalized any time soon, things will just get worse. There will be more harmful substitutes, more people introduced to other drugs, and even more drug dealers. It is not the 1920s anymore, let’s legalize marijuana!

 

Marijuana and the ?European Model?

Proponents for legalizing marijuana cite Europe as a good model for America to emulate.  However, there is no uniform policy in Europe about the use of drugs.  Although some countries in Europe have relaxed their laws regarding marijuana and other drugs, others have strict regulations in effect.  Here are some examples of how individual countries in Europe are handling drug related issues and how successful their policies are.

The country many consider to have “led the way in the liberalization of drug policy” is the Netherlands.  As early as 1976, “coffee shops” began selling marijuana in small doses.  Officially possessing and selling marijuana is illegal, but shops are allowed to offer marijuana with some restrictions, such as no more than three grams, no minors, no alcohol, and no advertising.  Proponents of legalized drugs often claim that drug dealers would lose all their business once marijuana is legalized, but this has not been the case for the Netherlands.  The illegal drug trade is still thriving, since coffee shops must purchase their marijuana from illegal sources.  Another popular argument is that if marijuana were legalized the demand would decrease.  Since the relaxation of regulations in the Netherlands, marijuana use has doubled.

Switzerland also has liberal drug policies.  “In late 1980s, Zurich experimented with what became known as Needle Park, where addicts could openly purchase drugs and inject heroin without police intervention.”  The number of drug dealers and addicts quickly went from a few hundred to several thousand and crime in the area skyrocketed until officials and law enforcement closed down the park and reinstituted drug restrictions.

Portugal has also been highly publicized for their decision in 2001 to legalize “minor possession of all drugs”.  Critics and skeptics alike prophesied huge increases in addiction and drug use.  The Cato Institute recently published a study they did on the results of the policy.  “[N]one of the nightmare scenarios from rampant increases in drug usage among the young to the transformation of Lisbon into a haven for ‘drug tourists’ has occurred.”  Instead, drug use, deaths, and sexually transmitted diseases have all decreased.  Although possession is no longer illegal, drug use remains so and people may still be stopped for having drugs.  If they have less than a ten day supply however, they go before a “health commission” who recommends them to treatment rather than jail time.  In short, Portugal has chosen to treat drug addiction as a disease rather than a criminal act.

“Like America, the various countries of Europe are looking for new ways to combat the worldwide problem of drug abuse.”  Some policies have been more successful than others.  Proponents for American legalization are right to suggest the US look to Europe for examples.  With the variety of policies and multitudes of research into whether those policies are successful, America has the unique opportunity of observing many examples of possible drug regulations and can emulate the ones that are proven to work.

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